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As I've contended above, by putting out this type of material I believe that producers effectively pander to the whims of the individuals concerned and thereby to some extent 'normalise' their extreme fantasies.

With the possible consequential result that the watching individuals might thereby be more likely to try and act out these extreme fantasies in reality with unwilling partners.

I believe this might well have been the case in the story highlighted in the link I made above. I think enough has been said here on my part.

I felt a need to respond to gunzo and Andy but feel that I've said enough on this now. I don't give much for stories of how children shoot school mates just because they saw this or that movie or played this or that video game If you believe in that you should probably get rid of all your violent flicks too, like Pulp Fiction and other violent masterpieces.

If anything is to blame it's the distorted reality popular culture displays which no one can escape from. That's social narcotics you know.

This debate got a lot in common with 'eating meat' or 'not eating meat' But hey, we like meat, right? So why should we care?

For me it's still very simple, if you hate what Max does, don't watch his movies. For me Max Hardcore is an icon because he revolutionized porn just the way Stagliano did.

Max changed porn bigtime when he first started with his The Anal Adventures of Max Hardcore and we hardcore pornfans should thank him for that because until then there were hardly any hardcore stuff like that on the market.

Max is a hero! Isn't it degrading and humiliating for those poor creatures to be treated like cattle? What's degrading to a cow about munching grass all day in a field?

The factory farms are wrong , but they could be legislated out of existance given enough will. I find the points that you raise both interesting and valid Zartyr.

Especially the last one. Just thinking about things here at my end. It seems to me that: To do nothing about porn becoming more and more extreme on the one hand seems senseless.

Surely there should be some boundaries after all? Maybe the best thing to do is just do nothing at all and wait and see what happens, if anything.

And let the 'powers that be' be the ones to institute the eventual clampdown if they do eventually do so and if they are indeed able to manage this.

I'm beginning to think that there really are no right or wrong answers in all of this. Just individual perceptions.

PS I'm not stoned or anything. Take it easy dudes. I think this review of Max Faktor 11 did a great job for Max because I ordered it at Erodvd but it was sold out and now I have to wait before they will have it in stock again.

It was the only Max title out of stock while I got the other 8 euro versions at Erodvd of Max with no problem. Another porn addict: If I'm not mistaken rape is a popular fantasy among women.

In porn women can live out this fantasy rather safely, good thing! If you look at Japan, rape is a quite popular male fantasy too, and I don't think that's an isolated phenomenon either.

Back in the days, didn't we use to club the woman of choice and drag her home by her hair? Now we try to club 'em with liquour instead ; That's how far in mentality we've gotten really.

So to think of it as wrong or inhumane is probably just societies chains holding you back, which may be a good thing since you obviously can't watch MH as a work of fiction.

To me it's seems kinda odd to mail some pornperson who probably gets a million death threats a week.

Just stop watching it and it's no longer your problem. Others will keep eating meat even though some say it's wrong which is probably correct because they enjoy it.

Egocentrism is violent and dirty, self preservation etc etc. Zartyr, you seem to think girls who work for Max Hardcore are either masochists or naive.

Link to this post. Please see Where to Shop for adult movie shops and porn download sites. Eurobabe Index. Gay DVD Review. Posted - Mar 31 : AM Another porn addict, for whatever it's worth, here is some more information for you regarding the two scenes with jessie in max faktor 11 and universal max.

Posted - Mar 31 : AM asseater wrote Laid. Posted - Mar 31 : AM thank you loraine. Posted - Mar 31 : AM mr. I could harp on about this further but I don't want to bore you and everyone else any more.

Needless to say, what you have said does not change my mind on the matter. I'd appreciate an answer from Max to my previous question if he cares to provide one.

Thank you for your excellent reviews mr. I'm looking forward to purchasing some titles on your recommendation. I don't remember seeing it on Faktor 11 though.

I didn't see the same type of 'damage' being inflicted in this flick. Posted - Mar 31 : AM Early days, smurly days. Posted - Mar 31 : PM Thanks for the reply.

Posted - Mar 31 : PM You're wellcome. Posted - Mar 31 : PM Max, Cobalt is actually one of the most intelligent people I've had the pleasure of corresponding with.

Posted - Mar 31 : PM Hehe Just say no. Posted - Mar 31 : PM I wonder what song he is going to dig up now. Posted - Mar 31 : PM So, the two samurai make eye contact from opposite sides of the bridge, and one of them is laughing.

Posted - Mar 31 : PM Yeah, at least as much as your movies are kitschy romantic fairy tales. Posted - Mar 31 : PM They consider it occupational therapy for longterm resident-subjects of the Tuscaloosa Institute for the Rehabilitative Sciences "special" X-Lab Research Project to spend some portion of the day working on their computer skills, so that one day when they re-enter society-at-large they will be able to find gainful and fulfilling employment in one of the burgeoning tech fields.

Cobalt earns extra points for verbal skills by posting here it's a particular arrangement with one of the nurses, a former stripper who accepts Cobalt's "cosmic zipper" pills -- intended to supress some of his outlandish fantasies and delusions [such as, he's this guy named "Cobalt60"] -- in exchange for a DSL feed to his room.

Click to expand Don't get Golden Guzzlers 1, as there were quite a few fake piss scenes in that one. I think a hose was used. Posted - Mar 31 : PM Is that the same as pissing up a rope?

Click to expand I've seen the trailer for Golden Guzzlers 5, there are some good images, but some scenes are not my thing at all, especially slapping and smeared lipstick both huge turn offs for me so I guess I'll pass on that one.

Just a matter of personal taste mind you, I'm sure many will positively love this kind of stuff. Thanks for the tip! Posted - Apr 1 : AM Another porn addict: Denying the fact that you enjoy rough porn doesn't seem like much of a solution - you'd probably fantasize about it instead Posted - Apr 1 : PM I don't enjoy seeing porn where the girls involved are crying and it looks like those tears are for real.

I don't believe that any of the girls in his films would be doing what they do if there was no money involved, or out of the kindness of their hearts.

I wouldn't exactly expect Max to be enjoying the off-screen action which stars like, say for example Steve Holmes, sometimes enjoy.

Posted - Apr 1 : PM I won't question wheather you enjoy it or not, but still you had to destroy this disc so you would never watch it again?

Posted - Apr 1 : PM There were parts of it the anal which were acceptable to me, and which I somewhat enjoyed. I destroyed the disc on account of the other material it contained which was not acceptable to me.

I destroyed the disc out of principle therefore Gunzo. If I hadn't destroyed the disc and had watched it again to see the parts that I had enjoyed then I would have personally seen myself as being a hypocrite for still gaining enjoyment from something which tittilated me in parts whilst revolting me in others.

However, if that's what Max et al want to believe, who am I to stand in the way of their most deluded of perceptions. I've never heard of this happening, and must say that I find your argument rather loose here, especially in light of what is said in the link I created above.

As Seymour Butts once said, Max often likes to hire the 'new' girls who don't know what's what. Also maybe because - in Max's words - they're not employable elsewhere I believe it to be the case that there's alot of girls out there chasing the work that is available.

Posted - Apr 1 : PM That's your opinion, and you're entitled to have it. But it worries me if you'd start imposing that on others who would enjoy these things.

Freedom is the name of the game. Posted - Apr 2 : AM Andy - I'm sorry if what I'm about to say gets to you, and I'm even more sorry if you're one of the people you've referred to.

Posted - Apr 2 : AM I don't give much for stories of how children shoot school mates just because they saw this or that movie or played this or that video game Posted - Apr 2 : AM For me it's still very simple, if you hate what Max does, don't watch his movies.

Posted - Apr 2 : AM Because porn actresses aren't meat, they are human beings. Posted - Apr 2 : AM I have to agree that the stuff that goes on in factory farming is much worse than anything Max could ever throw at us.

And of course the girls are there voluntarily. However, i wouldn't use this as an argument to say anyone can make whatever film they like.

Lee O Forearm Trainer mmmmmmm Posted - Apr 2 : AM What's degrading to a cow about munching grass all day in a field? Porn is part of popular culture.

And comparing this grot to Tarantino flicks is pretty wierd , unless you jack off to action sequences. In which case : seek help! Personally , I like Elastigirl I also find they look kind of "sick", i.

But that is only because the fantasies depicted don't fire up the sector responsible for horniness in my brain.

And most probably everyone favours something, which others call "sick". But I do like to see "truly" distressed woman, distress to which a MH movie might probably look lame.

But the question remains: Is it acted out as real or is it real? Is a performer in an AlexD movie who gets needles through her labia or gets raped tied to a gyno-chair really tortured and raped?

Are the performers in a Max Hardcore movie really abused and humiliated, are they good actors and actresses or does MH just do a good job creating pseudo reality and bringing pseudo reality to the screen?

I may not like the pseudo reality, but if he succeeds in bringing this pseudo reality to the viewers, more power to him and his fan-base.

If the talent is actually abused and humiliated, isn't that a dream of a prosecutor come true? The person charged guilty produced the evidence against himself.

IOW, in order to save the individual, lobotomize the whole village. So, she comes up to my room with me, only to find that the party includes force fucking all her holes to the limit and beyond!

Pamela is a Foreign Exchange Student who hadn't heard about me, and foolishly agrees to come up for a modeling test shoot.

She gets put through the ringer in the throat, cunt and ass! Jessie is on holiday with her folks in Hawaii, and of course is bored as hell and looking for some excitement.

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